Hi there John, good to have you join our bunch of merry men ( and ladies?). Yeah, I think that in themselves the Diffusion RMC's are very nice, however for many of the forum members, myself included, only the real deal will do, and for us that means Selvedge and full embroidery pockets. These cheaper RMC's may be an excellent start to a new RMC collection, and I hope that this venture is a sucessful one for Martin, but for me I'll pay the extra every time and get dearer ones.