Thanks for the additional pics, got to be honest looks mostly legit to me, the RMC 100% Cotton inside tag doesnt have the "Made in Hong Kong" stitched on strip on it like some of the jeans do, but then again none of my denim jackets have it either. The selvedge and stitching look spot on to me, the Yolk tag which would normally be red on RMC jeans is supposed to be Black with Red Kanji on the jackets so that matches up correctly.
The inside of the Yolk tag should be black, on your pic it looks red, but when I positioned a flashlight into my own jackets tag it gave off a red hue due to the rear of the red embroidered kanji reflecting the light back red. Just confirm to me that when viewed with your eyes the inside of the tag is indeed black like the outside, and the only red you can see is the back of the red kanji and you can be certain the jacket is legit. ( see my attatched pics, hard to see though sorry, I cant do great macro with a cellphone camera LOL ).
The backing which still remains on the rear of the embroidery is probably normal too and is part of the manufacturing process, I dont have any big bits of backing left on my embroideries rear, just small patches in the hard to reach areas ( see third pic ).

The waistpatch look OK as well, again the cardboardy type waistpatch used on the McDonalds RMC jeans is the type used here, not the leather type used on the jeans. The waistpatch also shows the line of backstitch/doublestitch on the top line of stitching ( all RMC waistpatches seem to have this trait ), so that too corresponds with legit product.

Overall then we seem to be onto a winner, my only concern is the Yolk tag which looks red inside on your pic but it could just be the way the picture was taken, check it again to make sure its definately Black inside and the only red you should see is the rear of the Kanji which to be fair covers quite a large area of the inside of the tag.

There is just too much about this Jacket with is totally accurate for me to feel it is fake, I cant imagine after all that effort getting everything else spot on that the Tag would be the only thing the potential faker would get wrong, but hey, RMC is all in the details, and thats why Ive never encountered an RMC item to date which I couldnt identify as fake or genuine. If this jacket is fake, then its the most accurate and near perfect fake Ive ever seen.

the little tab is actually red on the inside with black characters vice versa.

Hmmmm......there is a possibility that maybe some of the black Yolk tabs might have been made like this perhaps, Ive not seen enough jackets to compare, in fact my own is the only reference I have. We know that Red Yolk Tags on jeans should be red inside and out so my assumption is that the same would apply to black tags. "Like Black x RMC" collabs also have Black tags too but with Gold Kanji instead, I wonder if they follow the same rule, ie Black on the inside. I've never seen a pair of Like Black jeans before close up to be able to confirm this sadly. Seems very odd that this one aspect of the jacket would be the only thing fakers got wrong though after all the effort making the rest so perfect.
As I mentioned previously, we know jeans exsist which are factory rejects, effectively genuine product that were disguarded, perhaps even stolen from the factory before waistpatches were added ( this is usually the last process, particularly where the waistpatch is lasered ). Maybe these Jackets came about the same way and had Yolk tags added later to make them seem authentic. Surely it would have been better to leave the Yolk tag off altogether instead of adding a fake one? That said how many people would know that the Yolk tags are suppoesed to be the same colour inside and out??
This will likely remain a mystery I feel, I am sure that the jackets originate from the genuine factory, at worst they are unauthorised stock, so therefore technically fake as they were never intended for sale, its such a grey area in all honesty.

I mean if you got a pair of Adidas trainers from the back door of the legit factory before they were properly finished and they only had 2 stripes because the 3rd one hadnt been put on yet, does that make them fake? They were made in the proper factory by Adidas, but clearly only having done 2 of the 3 stripes would they ever have been released for sale? Not a chance of it, clearly anybody looking at a pair of adidas with just 2 stripes would say they are fake straight away even though they were actually made by adidas. Could be these jackets are the same type of thing, but like I say maybe some came with tags like that anyway, and maybe mine is fake! LMAO

Hi Guys, First off thanks for all of your help. I just sent you pictures of the tab front and back. I pulled one off of the jackets I have. The back is black. The red you saw is the embroidery. I would have posted pics on the forum but I am not good with computers and don't know how LOL. Let me know what you think Dunnymonster.

here is the pic hanna took with the tab cut off.





here is a pic i took. I didn't notice that collar had these stitching on it. Does your have it dunnymonster?



now that i compared the tag on the jacket to the one with my jeans they feel about the same and they seem like they were made of the same material. Its just the jacket tag is shorter and the cut off part is missing the Red RMC logo.

Thanks hanna and Cowcolour for the additional information. Clearly the cardboard swing tag looks fake and we know the Yolk tag is definately red on the inside and not black as it should be. I am still of the opinion that the jackets were made in the same factory as the genuine ones, however its clear that both the swing tags and yolk tag were added by a third party at a later time. I have seen the same process applied to fake RMC jeans in China where every aspect of the jeans were perfect except the waistpatch which was obviously fake. As to wether you can call the items authentic is a matter of opinion, obviously they are not out and out fakes but on the other hand they are not authorised stock issued by Martin Ksohoh either and to be honest it would have been better if the fake aspects were never added. The fact an attempt has been made to complete the final manufacturing process using fake elements was probably the worse thing that could have been done. For many people who simply want to wear this style it might not be an issue, but from a collectors point of view its value would be very low given its not 100% Martin Ksohoh product. As with all designer clothing only authorised stock produced for sale by the designer will ever be totally genuine. RMC's high quality manufacturing processes mean its almost impossible to produce fakes which are impossible to spot.

PS; yeah my jacket also has the zig zag stitch under the collar ;-)

It is amazing how some small alterations to the clothing can affect the value, but yeah i do agree with you since everything does look legit except for the little tab on the side.

Yeah I suppose the alterations that have been made afterwards are not really much different to altering the item yourself afterwards, I mean we have seen Yoropiko Dragons which were retro fitted with Swarovski Crystals by the owner, does that improve the value or reduce it, purists would say it has altered the designers original intentions thus its actually worth less. Same applies to a pair of RMC jeans which have been shortened, again collectors would generally prefer the item to be as it was originally made, but for most it isnt an issue.
In the case of these jackets, I'm kind of divided, on the one hand its clear there is some legitimacy, they are not out and out fakes, but we have to accept that they are not authorised stock either. From a quality point of view they are 100% RMC but there will always be that nagging dought in the back of my mind that they are not quite what they should be. Would I add an item such as this to my collection?...... yes I would, however I wouldnt be inclined to pay a great deal for them simply because unlike the rest of my collection there is a percentage of dought about their authenticity.

Futher to the subject of suspect Yolk tags I wanted to satisfy myself that genuine tags should be black with red kanji on the outside and black on the inside as per my own jacket, thus following the pattern that red tags should be red on the inside also. It occurred to me that my canvas tote RMC bags I keep my T shirts in also have the black with red kanji tag on it, so I checked it to see if it remained consistant with my jacket tag.
It appears to be the same as my jacket tag, ie Black inside so I can assume any black tags which are red inside are in fact fake even if the rest of the garment is authentic. Hopefully that will clear any ambiguity regards this matter.