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NEW MARTIN KSOHOH RMC JEANS GENUINE AND AUTHENTIC $500 - eBay (item 150346883521 end time May-25-09 08:35:33 PDT) they have a black tag in the ...

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Default what style are these??? black tag not red - 05-20-2009, 09:44 PM

NEW MARTIN KSOHOH RMC JEANS GENUINE AND AUTHENTIC $500 - eBay (item 150346883521 end time May-25-09 08:35:33 PDT)


they have a black tag in the back instead of red.
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Default Re: what style are these??? black tag not red - 05-20-2009, 09:45 PM

That's a Rangy fake. You can tell from the waist patch, embroidery colors and the selvedge.




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Default Re: what style are these??? black tag not red - 05-20-2009, 10:31 PM

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Default Re: what style are these??? black tag not red - 05-20-2009, 10:59 PM

That's one of Rangy's fake "trademark".




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Default Re: what style are these??? black tag not red - 05-21-2009, 01:35 AM

Those are some good/bad jeans. (I'm being facetious.) Is there any way these fiends can be stopped? MWAHH HAA HAA!
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Default Re: what style are these??? black tag not red - 05-21-2009, 01:48 PM

Yeah the selvedge on those is obviously fake but yes they could fool someone very easily. Those are the best fakes i've seen so far!
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Default Re: what style are these??? black tag not red - 05-21-2009, 07:17 PM

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Def. fake despite what the seller says, just look at the picture with the jeans open and the inside denim is pure bleach white! We can assume it isnt unbleached cotton then. The tab should be red ( although I am aware that there were possibly some RMC for the Japanese market a long time ago which had black tabs, but I'm not 100% sure about that). These are pretty good fakes though with them being selvedge, ive seen many of these for sale on Japanese sites in the past which isnt suprising given Rangy are from Japan. @ LaDoozie, there is one way to stop these fakes being sold...............Dont buy them! LOL


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Default Re: what style are these??? black tag not red - 05-21-2009, 07:19 PM

is there any knock off company that would use real selvedge denim? I figure it wouldn't be cost worthy.
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Default Re: what style are these??? black tag not red - 05-21-2009, 07:54 PM

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is there any knock off company that would use real selvedge denim? I figure it wouldn't be cost worthy.
To be fair there is quality, made on old looms Selvedge and cheap, made on modern machines en mass selvedge. Selvedge in itself doesnt automatically ensure quality denim, and now everybody is realising that selvedge denim is the top stuff, every high street brand and his dog are releasing their own selvedge range of jeans and knocking them out at $60 a pair. So in answer to your question, given that the faker can sell a very real looking fake at nearly the same price as the real RMC (which cost very much less than the real one cost to make), then yes its still viable. In fact the profit margin on these very good fakes is probably higher than the obviously mega cheap RMC copies we are used to seeing that sell for $40, and cost $10 to make ( or less). These "good" fakes could sell for $500 and probably cost $50 to make so you get a ten fold profit from them instead of the smaller four fold profit made by the super cheap fakes which probably wont sell anyway because they fool nobody in the first place. Also, fact is, if it wasnt worth doing it then the fakers wouldnt bother.


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Default Re: what style are these??? black tag not red - 05-21-2009, 09:06 PM

Not all selvedge denims are expensive to produce, but small amounts quality selvedge denims are. There are afew RMC tabs, one is the ones we have on our jeans the red tab with white letters. then there's the white tab with red letters as seen on the RMC all waves shorts. The black tab with gold letters tab on the AAAA x RMC, Black tab with red letters on older models AAAA x RMC shorts. The tabs may be one of the points of spotting fakes but smart counterfeiters could easily make a similar one. To spot a fake, you need to hold into all accounts of what's authentic and compare with the fakes to spot the difference.There's always this forum here to help anyone who have questions and to help out spotting fakes.




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