Creating my own Denim (help putting logos on the back of the jeans)

Sean2kx

Hello. My and my team have recently been interested in putting a spring collection of jeans out in our mall (in chicago). Are there any good sites to start looking on? I'm not new to the business world because i am a musican or w/e.

My Main Q is. How do you put logos like evisu jeans does on the back (the cheap way?

example

Thankz

**Shin6gc**

Evisu uses paint. The cheapest way would be printing. 1st you gotta know what type of crowd you are trying to attract with your product? what are you trying to produce?

Cheap denim with cheap design?
Quality denim with cheap design?
Cheap denim with Good quality print/paint/embroidery?
Quality denim with Good quality print/paint/embroidery?

Sean2kx · 12:46 AM

Thankx for da comment.

My audience is for the people addicted to the fly (aka fashion). And since I'm a music artist I advertise my clothes while selling music.

Id say I want to go the:

"Cheap denim with Good quality print/paint/embroidery". Route.

EDit: do you know any websites where i can get a whole sale of NON name brand denim? all i been finding is name brand which i cant use. (shirts are so easy)

My price range is 60 - 180$. 60 being simple/affordable designs and 180 for official clothes me and my team wear.

Btw, This isnt a Hoax or Dream thing. I'm in the process of getting my domain name tomorrow, since i can web design a bit.

Sean2kx

Nvm i get the how to do it now. googled for a few hours. just need advice in getting a wholesale in Non name brand jeans.

**Shin6gc**

maybe you can look around factories that mass produces denim and check with them for quotes etc.

Kanye

Sean, you're not really jay-z are you?

**Dunnymonster**

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Originally Posted by Sean2kx

Nvm i get the how to do it now. googled for a few hours. just need advice in getting a wholesale in Non name brand jeans.

Yeah its not really a wholesaler you need to find but an OEM manufacturer who can produce the basic denim Jeans in your own design which you can later print your logo, etc., Of course they could also likely add the print work to it during manufacture so you would have a complete finished product to your spec. There may be minimum quantities that they will require and unless you plan on having thousands made a small bespoke order could end up being expensive and the selling price of the Jeans then out of your price range. In my opinion your cheapest solution is to go somewhere like Walmart if you want a basic cheap denim to work on and buy up loads of them ( around $10 a pair if that) then do the print work yourself, but you might need to remove the logos and tabs from the inside!

Sean2kx

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Originally Posted by Dunnymonster

Yeah its not really a wholesaler you need to find but an OEM manufacturer who can produce the basic denim Jeans in your own design which you can later print your logo, etc., Of course they could also likely add the print work to it during manufacture so you would have a complete finished product to your spec. There may be minimum quantities that they will require and unless you plan on having thousands made a small bespoke order could end up being expensive and the selling price of the Jeans then out of your price range. In my opinion your cheapest solution is to go somewhere like Walmart if you want a basic cheap denim to work on and buy up loads of them ( around $10 a pair if that) then do the print work yourself, but you might need to remove the logos and tabs from the inside!

isnt that illegal??

**CD!**

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Originally Posted by Sean2kx

isnt that illegal??

No it's not. Once you purchase the product it is yours - provided you don't infringe any trademarks/copyrights etc then you will be fine. For example you couldn't buy a Ralph Lauren polo, rip out the tags & put in Sean's Brand tags as you would be using the RL pony logo! If the polo was totally unbranded then you could remove the tags & place Sean's Brand tags in them (provided you give all the required info. Basically you'd need to copy the info from the original tags onto your new tags). This type of thing is common practise & is done by many brands (not for jeans so much but definately for tees/tops). You can tell when a brand does this as the stiching is dodgy, there is some crap taping on the inside neck over the stitching or the tag is sewn on over the tape. I can't remember which brand it was that did it - but I purchased a top & it was clear that one tag had been removed & a new one sewn in it's place. You could even see a little bit of the old tag under the new tag. The brand was a decent designer brand - just can't remember who it was though.

To be honest your best bet is to visit the KMO forum - Kitmeout Designer Clothes Evisu Jeans Boss Red Monkey Jeans Tsubi Bape Armani as there have been a few topics about this in the past - I'm sure I've posted on this subject quite a bit. Plus there are a few people who post who actually have their own brands or work in the industry. One of the guys started Ed Hardy!!

The problem with buying in jeans is that they will be branded alot more than a tee. On a tee you pretty much have a label - that's it. On jeans, you have the label, the waistpatch, the buttons, the back pockets etc. You would have to remove a fair bit of stuff or replace it to cover up the fact you've puchased $10 jeans!! Obviously this would be alot cheaper than getting them manufactured to your requirements. Maybe a good idea to test out some designs first to see how they look.

It's not an easy industry to get into - there are probably hundreds of brands launched a day and only a tiny % make anything happen & an even smaller % hit the big time!!

HTH!

**Dunnymonster**

I guess if you did resort to buying in Walmart Jeans you could always pluck the pocket design stitching off too, and make them plain, just in case that was also technically in breach of copyright. Afterall you dont want the might of WalMart suing you for sure!