The Vines designs are one of the best Year of designs in my opinion, at least it offers something different. Most of the designs are not to my liking because they can look garish and overdone, but the quality of the denim is in fact very good. The pair Ive got are pretty understated by Year Of standards. I expect they go well with the C.A. T's and Hoodies you have.

[quote=Kanye;9301]What is the general opinion about these The Year Of The Pig Jeans? Is this year, The Year Of The Pig? What's next year? I heard somewhere this was Martin's idea that Tony borrowed, is that right?


well you surely heard wrong... if you check the facts, you will see that tyo... was started in 2002 long before rmc, rmc is actually red monkey jeans with logo of two monkeys ripperd off a famous london graf artist by the way...

banksy's monkey modified into two monkeys... who are all of these so called denim gurus on this site anyway, what do they do???? what do they know about denim??? if the year of... is crap why would evisu owners say it is one of the best products available and totally bash rmc??? you guys need to all wake up ... tony magnetic was a part of the mecca usa crew, then started the year of... then put rmc on the map, by helping out... study up boys... figure it out... how did tyo... get sold in hollywood ranch market in tokyo... long before any of you knew what blue blue and mother nature was or is... or before you even saw selvage jeans, or knew what it was??? who invented gold selvage.. yup tony magnetic... get it right... wake the hell up... do all you guys work for martin?? hahahahahha....

dunny check the site, of course tyo is still going better then ever... just opened 2 new shops in beijing as well... and about to sign a deal in north america with a basket ball playa if you really wanna know the hype... harvey knicks / harrods... too... what more can you do... custom gold gold selvage they invented by the way.. what did rmc invent??? they just copied evisu right??

hahahaha... knowledge is king...

by the way jeans are an american / italian product, selvage denim was created in america, asian culture spans the world, from japanese influence in the selvage denim of the 1970's keeping the culture alive when america gave it up for modern production, the chinese culture spans the globe, as well, the zodiac not having a designed birthdplace or origin if you try to trace it back actually, simply embraced by asian culture but no one can say where it came from for sure... some speculate india / and southwestern china / borderline india... either way no one seems to own this culture... how do you know what t bone has done in eastern culture?? I know for a fact he lived there for many years and worked there and was responsible for putting rmc on the map...

when you guys wake up from the brainwashing,... you will realize how rmc got on the map, who makes their own fabric gold gold selvage created by tony magnetic and who has out performed at all levels of distribution because the real history is that before rmc there was tyo and after the massive law suits, and trademark issues with rmc the shit has fallen apart... hahahaah... tyo... lives.. check the net... theyearof.net

just for the record, tony never worked for martin, tony helped distribute and create the hype behind red monkey, tyo was around before rmc... get the facts dumb5... then speak on it...

wow he went hard but still RMC is still hotter sorry bone head

hi guys, been following this forum for ages and many others and decided to join today.lol some one seems to be upset here. kingbone are you sure you are not t-bone. you seem to have your heard up your arse or up tbones arse. lets get real now, tyo and rmc are all as good as another and what you say " tony helped distribute and create the hype behind red monkey, tyo was around before rmc... " if this had any truth in the statement, how come no one heard of TYO before RMC became well known. surely one would promote their own brand and make it BIG and not someone elses like you say. t bone was no more then a salesman for MECCA and by the sound of things was the same for EO and RMC. I was checking on US trade mark registry all trade marks applied for RED MONKEY and i am sure T-Bone applied for this behind Martins Back and this mark was opposed by Torry the guy in USA who has red monkey designs. What a sly 2 faced back stabing T-bone is, gets credit and rides on the back of RMC, pretending to be the main man behind RMC. Had anyone heard of T-bone or TYO before RMC connection? this would be intresting to find out. I came across TYO around 2006. Merry Christmas

[quote=kingbone;15797]Hi there Kingbone, and welcome to the forum. As you are aware all opinions are listened to and you are always welcome to make your point in regard to any discussion which is made here. You ask if any of us are denim Gurus? Can I ask what your credentials are in regard to Denim production, you didnt say either, however?. None of us would make claim to be a Denim Guru, we discuss what we like and dislike from the point of view as consumers and collectors. Whilst I cannot varify or deny your claims, what I would ask you to consider is how many TYO Jeans products have been sold to date since their introduction compared to RMC given they have allegedly been around for so long? Also why is TYO often discounted heavily by the likes of DJ premium? I ask this from the point of view that I like both brands ( and own both TYO and RMC Jeans), although I will happily admit a greater preference for RMC which I accept makes my opinion on the matter biased to RMC. In fact if you wish to check the forum in its entirety you will see that I have often remarked on how well made the TYO product is, in particular the use of Gold/Silver Selvedge which I believe is impressive. Do you actually own any RMC yourself? As for, do all us guys work for Martin then the answer to that is quite simple........NO. I might ask you the same with regard to TYO, given the forthright nature of your post. You state Knowledge is King.........my opinion is that you are long way from your crown. However when all is said and done RMC will always be able to take any criticism, the product is good enough to stand any onslaught. Perhaps one day we will be able to discuss futher the pros and cons of TYO versus RMC on TYO's own forum.............ah sorry there isnt one is there!

[quote=kingbone;15797]We 'so called denim gurus' as you put it are customers & fans of RMC & Yoropiko!

'Invented' gold selvedge! That's abit OTT (much like TYO) isn't it?? Talk about PR - he choose a different colour - not really setting the world alight with that invention! Maybe I'm going to invent a brown selvedge, then a grey one, then a maroon one, then a reflective one, then a bronze one, then a red one.....oh wait there's already a red one! Maybe I could do a blue one or a purple one....but yep, they're already available. Maybe a pink one....same story - it's out there already!
Evisu owners - come on! They can't be taken that seriously can they?